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Unexpected Party by David T. Wenzel

This page lists specific tasks to be completed in Tolkien Gateway. Feel free to add new suggestions of things to be improved in the wiki, but remember this is "the J.R.R. Tolkien encyclopedia that anyone can edit", so you can also pick a task and get into it. Just do not forget to follow the Manual of Style. Users can also be involved in wider projects.

Wiki updating

Discussed by gatekeepers in Discord
  • Create a common bot for technical stuff.
    • Change images in publication infoboxed to 275px.
  • Create Tolkien Gateway:General disclaimer.
  • Update favicon.
  • Displaytitle is ignored when there is no direct equivalence with the page's actual title.
  • Make easier guidelines for new editors.
  • Remake Tolkien Gateway:Projects.
  • Give linguistics stuff its own project.

New Letters

  • Include the new info all over the wiki. (The new letters provide entirely biographical information, not further knowledge on the legendarium)

Pages needing rewriting/improvements

Quanta Sarmë

Pointed by Erkenbard in Discord
  • the page about Quanta Sarmë says that "its usage and characters are a mystery" and lacks any information about qanta-tenkele from PE22, while that system, fully explained there and readily useable, is essentially the same full writing system as later Quanta Sarmë, I believe, or at least it is worth mentioning in connection with the latter; so some of the editors with access to PE22 might want to take a look at this matter.

Silvan Elvish

Explained by Ellanto in Discord

During the 2nd sundering the Nandor (Q. for "those who go back") split off from the Teleri; over time therefore their language deviates from the Old Telerin tongue, and forms the Nandorin language. The Nandor then split once more as the Laiquendi go west, and later their dialects drift apart: thus East Danian and West Danian.

"Silvan Elvish" is itself an umbrella term for the various dialects of Elvish spoken by various groups of Elves in later Ages. These languages descend from the East Danian dialect(s), but are not synonymous with it/them, because they don't coexist: East Danian refers to the language of the eastern Nandor in the 1st Age , "Silvan Elvish" is a term applicable to the 2nd & 3rd. Furthermore, the Silvan Elvish tongues are noted to have been influenced by Avarin tongues, brought by Avarin peoples who migrated westwards over time and mingled with the Silvan Elves; East Danian had no such influences (yet).

To summarise: East Danian evolved over time, with some Avarin influence, into what is later known as "Silvan Elvish", which is itself an umbrella term for several closely related dialects - similar to the relation between Old and Modern English. As a side-note, I would be careful with saying "Danian (from their leader Dân)", as it is currently phrased on both of the pages you linked; this is a false assumption. The element dan- is cognate of Q. nan- in the Telerin languages, e.g. Quenya Nandor "those who go back" is equivalent to the Sindarin terms Danedhel, Danwaith, Danathrim. This first element comes from Primitive Elvish √NDAN.

This however seems to have nothing to do with Lenwe/Dân/Denweg: if his name was based on the same root, it would be Nenwe in Quenya, not Lenwe. In his case the element is √DAN, which is unattested and likely related to √NDAN, but distinct from it. My point is - saying "Danian is from Dân" is mixing up cause and effect.

Another side-note - reference #2 in both of these pages (citing PE17/153) is unnecessary and does not fit there, it should be replaced with another instance of ref #1 (PE18/78).

Other pages needing improvement

Suggested by User:Sage
Suggested by User:Éowyn
  • Oxford related articles are a mess.

Additions needed

Suggested by User:Éowyn
Suggested by User:Luotiansha
  • This page - Websites - is intended to be an index to all the useful and good websites both now and past. It is best to give a short description to each of these entries. Anyone can add entries to it.

Create

Suggested by User:Dour1234
  • Create a page on "J0 9184", which was the license plate that both of Tolkien's cars had possessed. Some links to possible references can be found in the following post: "Forums:J0 9184".

Infoboxes

suggested by User:IvarTheBoneless
  • Maybe create a super infobox for characters that magically changes its color depending of the race.

Books

Suggested by User:Luotiansha

TolkienGuide store
↑This, is a good place to check the upcoming books & editions. It also lists many other Tolkien-related books, if any of them does not currently have a page on TolkienGateway, hey, you know what to do.

A HarperCollins books sheet
↑A google sheet of HarperCollins books, could be useful for reference. (source)


Some priorities

Suggested by User:LorenzoCB
Good summary! A note: some years ago we discussed page references to UT, and found that the pagination is not consistent in the different editions (unlike the Houghton Mifflin/HarperCollins HoME, and works that have a "standard" edition like LotR). I therefore made an expanded citation template for UT, since there are several divisions and sub-divisions in the book. But perhaps there are new reasons to start including page references to UT as well? --Morgan 22:29, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
Christopher Tolkien uses UT pagination constantly thoughtout HOME, so using the same as him is perfectly consistent with what we already have. I've always included pages when citing UT, aware that it was the same as the one used by Christopher. Expanding the citation template was useful nontheless, but having the more precise references, the better. --LorenzoCB 12:53, 5 August 2022 (UTC)